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layzee
07-20-2007, 08:41 PM
Hello Peacemakers

I am posting this in responce to your admin decisions the other night on Wake Island when i was kicked in my (and others) opinion for doing nothing wrong.
I would just like you to take a look at this thread

http://forums.bf2stats.nl/lastpost41790.html?#41790

Surely all these players cant be wrong as well.


look forward to seeing your replies

LAYZEE=SOD=

GeForce
07-20-2007, 10:04 PM
I kicked you solely because you were Spawn raping, The point is not that many other players see this as Okay, it is that these are our server rules and how we like to play.

jayboy06
07-20-2007, 11:58 PM
Rules are Rules!!! If you break them be prepared to take the consequences!! Either stop being a big girl or find another server!!

layzee
07-21-2007, 02:08 AM
There is 4 other flags to spawn at if you are getting hammered on wake.
what i was doing was not spawn camping nor was it baserape as airfield flag is not an uncap.
It was just keeping the j10s on the floor until usa troops arrived at airfield just good sound tactics.
If you will run onto the runway, try to get off the ground in a j10 or chopper then you are fairgame.

You all know that the only chance the us team has of getting a foothold on the island is to keep the air support on the ground and if they wanna win then they got to take the airfield and hold it.

layzee
07-21-2007, 02:09 AM
Rules are Rules!!! If you break them be prepared to take the consequences!! Either stop being a big girl or find another server!!

I suggest you go read your own rules bud

layzee
07-21-2007, 09:20 AM
Thanks Killmore
It was sorted out last night, i had a chat with those concerned and we sorted it out all amicably like.
I was asked why I come on to your server to which I replied "good bunch of guys always play fair which is hard to find these days" that still is the case.

Allways have good battles and usually some laughs which of course makes the whole game more enjoyable which at the end of the day is what it is all about for me.

Any of you guys are welcome on the =SOD= server (85.236.101.79:16767
32 Slots ) we run io tue wed thur vehicle maps rest of week.

I was also asked how old i am so just to confirm im a rickety 52yo, i ran a poll on another forum and i think there was 2 players older than me one was 66 if i remember correctly.

I got this game for christmas and have been playing since then Layzee=sod= is my second account.

Anything else you want to know please ask away.

Oh yes like the website by the way

layzee
07-21-2007, 08:22 PM
Hi Calv,
I for one am sorry that you feel this way about =sod= server / admins (im not one)
seat swapping is allowed but if it was suspected that a bot of any sort was being used you would be kicked.
We are an anti cheat fairplay clan

i will copy your post to the admins see what they have to say for themselves.

layzee
07-22-2007, 08:56 AM
This is reply from Admin

Hi Paul,

Thanks for sharing this m8, Seen we run PunkBuster and totaly upto date i trust PB to catch the Cheats, I was'nt aware there was a Solo Seat Swap Aimbot or what ever you call it lol, how ever like you siad , if we know they are cheating or known to be 100% cheaters then we will BAN them.

I did see a Player point this out in the server tonight ( but didnt relise it was done by them, Dalian Plant was the map where i seen it i just thought somone got our rules muddle up with another server so sorry didnt mean to ignor it in that way.

Base Rapers, I was kicking none stopping those i seen or got told about, There was a APC at Dalian Plant Ship, but i was flying and the only one on the remote at that time, i did kick him but took a few mins for me to land and get on the remote. Sorry once again we try to Admin the server as best as we can at all times, We do take note of all players reporting base rapers and rule breakers.

Hope they can enjoy a few games in our server we do try our best to make the game fair for us all.

wildsod
07-22-2007, 04:01 PM
Hi Peacemakers,

LAYZEE=SOD=. Show us a post done by you and i did reply in the =SOD= Members Forums, which i will copy and paste my reply belowe.
I didnt know your Web Site until another member post the link of your site, so thought it would be best to reply here in person.
btw I am not here to sl*g or slander anyone but hopfully try to sort a minor issue regarding our server rules.

Our main rules are No base Raping Fix Bases, No Bad Language or abusing others, No Teamkilling on purpose, Commander must Not Play and Command.
(In our Infantry Only Server Rules are slightly diffent a new Rule this week for Commander is NO Commanders, other rules still aplly like no Fix base raping)

Anyway thats our rules in genral, here the post i made to LAYZEE=SOD=

Thanks for sharing this m8, Seen we run PunkBuster and totaly upto date i trust PB to catch the Cheats, I was'nt aware there was a Solo Seat Swap Aimbot or what ever you call it lol, how ever like you siad , if we know they are cheating or known to be 100% cheaters then we will BAN them.

I did see a Player point this out in the server tonight ( but didnt relise it was done by them, Dalian Plant was the map where i seen it i just thought somone got our rules muddle up with another server so sorry didnt mean to ignor it in that way.

Base Rapers, I was kicking none stopping those i seen or got told about, There was a APC at Dalian Plant Ship, but i was flying and the only one on the remote at that time, i did kick him but took a few mins for me to land and get on the remote. Sorry once again we try to Admin the server as best as we can at all times, We do take note of all players reporting base rapers and rule breakers.

Hope they can enjoy a few games in our server we do try our best to make the game fair for us all.

Tony.

We dont have the Rule Spawn Camping because somtimes its hard to call if they are camping or not, but helping there team mates capture a post taking out enemy everytime they spawn. so this rule we dont have. even though camping do take part but your in control of what flag you spawn at or if you do spawn to be raped. tough at times i know!!!

Anyways Sorry you thought the rules was diffrent but can assure you we do Admin the server and will kick or ban anyone that breaks the server rules.

Tony. Aka Wild=SOD=

layzee
07-22-2007, 04:17 PM
Calv,
Thanks for above post m8 would be most interested in your hack research anything that helps to keep the game running on a level playing field so to speak will benefit all concerned.

wildsod
07-23-2007, 12:44 AM
Hi Calv,

I too would be very intrested, I have never kicked anyone for cheating/hacking
without proof, saying to somone that they cheat and really they are a good player would leave me feeling guilty just because of the not knowing.
With Proof trust me they will be BANNED, we have done this in past to one of our own members.
would be nice to learn more though, hopfully we be able to Ban more if they do slip through PunkBusted AntiCheat software.

Tony.

Igloo
07-23-2007, 05:10 AM
well the whole PB thing is hit and miss

and you have things like this which is sad i dont know why ea hasnt shut them down ...

http://www.msxsecurity.com/bf2.php

plus heres a screen of a guy using a commander hack just before we turfed his arse. and pb did not pick it up



as an addendum...... if the player is that much superior to the other players in the game that he stands out head and shoulders to the point you think he probably hacking. hes probably wrecking the game for the other 32 players anyways. i wouldn't feel bad for kicking him at all.

competitive games are much more fun and attract good natured players most of the time. as well as your server tends to keep the players playing on it as regulars as they know they arent going to get blown into dust by a lopsided squad.

layzee
07-23-2007, 09:07 AM
Cheers for putting that lot together, we all know they exist as Tony said we caught one of our own using msx not to long ago and yes the only way to find em is by getting killed a lot.
The squad has a lot of experienced players and you just get a feeling that things aint right when someone is killing you once ok 2nd 3rd time you know something is going on.

I go on another server that has a rule of no commander at all which makes for some very interesting games, they are a good clan "fighters of Freedom" check em out let me know what you think

Yoosty
07-23-2007, 04:03 PM
Hopefully we will be implementing a new feature that will automatically send ScreenShots to Punk Buster. Once we find out if our Game server provider allows it.

You might also pass this along to your Game Server Admins.

Tony Ray of Even Balance, included the ability of the flagship product Punk Buster, to stream the PB logs to a remote server location. This streaming repository system, is a very powerful tool to curb online cheaters.

More info at link below.

http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41

jayboy06
07-23-2007, 04:43 PM
I suggest you go read your own rules bud

Hi Layzee,
I appologise for my post the other day, I was out of order! All i can say is i'd had a bad day at work then saw someone complaining and vented!! I Appologise whole heartedly & have given my self 10000 pushups as punishment :( !!

layzee
07-24-2007, 12:55 AM
no problems m8
i hope you take a long time doing the push up,s

wildsod
07-25-2007, 06:14 PM
Hi All,

Calv Killmore, thanks for posting all that information regarding Cheats and Abilities, I know of some and there abilities, seen 1 or 2 that was kinda new to me so handy info there Thanks, like wise make's me hate them
wanting to catch them all and the pleasure of Banning them all. I know i never will
and there's always going to be a few that slip's the net so to speak.
Not checked your Server but can i ask, are you lot running PunkBuster on your Server ??

If not then i would strongly advice you to check it out.
Yoosty posted,
Hopefully we will be implementing a new feature that will automatically send ScreenShots to Punk Buster. Once we find out if our Game server provider allows it.

You might also pass this along to your Game Server Admins.

Tony Ray of Even Balance, included the ability of the flagship product Punk Buster, to stream the PB logs to a remote server location. This streaming repository system, is a very powerful tool to curb online cheaters.

More info at link below.

http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/in...p?showtopic=41

We check every ScreenShot every evening/Morning before the Server kick's of again, 1 Player caught by us so far by submitting a ScreenShot,This player used AimBot Cross hairs.

This also proves a point of Cheater passing through PB, how ever my moto is they "All will be caught sooner or later"

Going back to how this Topic started really, Chopper Seat swapping dont prove that they are a cheating and gettign loads of kills, even though i must admit i do get very suspicious when they seem to shoot and hit bang on every time, but in a personel opinion, innocent until proven guilty.
even though i see your point of having the rule no seat swapping, but even by having this would'nt stop somone from using a Aimbot while having a Pilot.

Igloo, Type this URL.
http://www.msxsecurity.com/bf2.php

Yes that is a Cheating Group Forum, where you can puchase Cheats for a price
I would like to say from a personel experience from a X sod member this is'nt 100% cheat proof, Evenbalance done a Hardware Ban on this Player i dont need to name names, but if you really would like to know then in our public forum you will see a topic saying his name, how every you got to be sad to even think about buying cheats to be able to cheat, makes you one big loser.

But i wll say this even with a globle ban, with hacking tools you can spoof your way back into the games, oh yeah they will have to have a new CD code and user account that gets a ban still, but every thing they need from hacinking tools and CD Keys can be brought from the above site, how every the CD keys are Leeked keys many players sharing the same one lol, so not worth it for what thay charge.
Ps. Don't think I'm part of this sad group when a clan member of your own gets caught for cheating you do a lot of home work and learning a lot, so thats how i know some of the information regarding this cheating group.

Anyways intresting Topic we have here and nice to see another Clan totaly Anti Cheat motavatied.
Clans like us keep the game Fair Play and Enjoyable !!!

Anywasy After the time it's taken me to type this there's probley another 5 players Banned by BP or hopfully lol.

Thanks
Tony aka Wild=SOD=

Sparhawk
10-25-2007, 12:20 PM
I am 52...............

Enforcer24
10-26-2007, 01:53 AM
layzee you are a good player and we like you to play on our server and you do know the rules.

Darthmikey
10-27-2007, 01:34 AM
This is useless.